Tripiṭaka 10. Upālivagga
10. With Upāli
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Ekaṁ samayaṁ āyasmā ānando rājagahe viharati tapodārāme.
At one time Venerable Ānanda was staying near Rājagaha in the Hot Springs Monastery.
Atha kho āyasmā ānando rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ paccuṭṭhāya yena tapodā tenupasaṅkami gattāni parisiñcituṁ.
Then Ānanda rose at the crack of dawn and went to the hot springs to bathe.
Tapodāya gattāni parisiñcitvā paccuttaritvā ekacīvaro aṭṭhāsi gattāni pubbāpayamāno.
When he had bathed and emerged from the water he stood in one robe drying his limbs.
Kokanudopi kho paribbājako rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ paccuṭṭhāya yena tapodā tenupasaṅkami gattāni parisiñcituṁ.
The wanderer Kokanada also rose at the crack of dawn and went to the hot springs to bathe.
Addasā kho kokanudo paribbājako āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ dūratova āgacchantaṁ.
He saw Ānanda coming off in the distance
“Puccheyyāma mayaṁ āyasmantaṁ kiñcideva desaṁ, sace āyasmā okāsaṁ karoti pañhassa veyyākaraṇāyā”ti.
“I’d like to ask the venerable about a certain point, if you’d take the time to answer.”
“Kiṁ nu kho, bho, ‘sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti—evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan”ti?
“Is this your view: ‘The cosmos is eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?”
‘sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’”ti.
“Kiṁ pana, bho, ‘asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti—evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan”ti?
“Then is this your view: ‘The cosmos is not eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?”
‘asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’”ti.
hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …
‘A realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death …’ …
neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan”ti?
‘A Realized One neither exists nor doesn’t exist after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?”
‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’”ti.
“‘Kiṁ nu kho, bho, sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—
“When asked about all these points, you say that’s not your view.
evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
‘na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi—
sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti vadesi.
‘Kiṁ pana, bho, asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—
evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
‘na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi—
asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti vadesi.
Kiṁ nu kho, bho, antavā loko …pe…
anantavā loko …
taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ …
aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …
hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …
na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …
hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …
neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—
evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavanti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
‘na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi—
neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti vadesi.
‘Tena hi bhavaṁ na jānāti na passatī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
Yet when asked whether you neither know nor see,
Yathā kathaṁ panāvuso, imassa bhāsitassa attho daṭṭhabbo”ti?
How then should we see the meaning of this statement?”
“‘Sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti kho, āvuso, diṭṭhigatametaṁ.
“‘The cosmos is eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile:’ that’s a misconception.
‘Asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti kho, āvuso, diṭṭhigatametaṁ.
‘The cosmos is not eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile:’ that’s a misconception.
hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …
‘A realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death …’ …
‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti kho, āvuso, diṭṭhigatametaṁ.
‘A Realized One neither exists nor doesn’t exist after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile:’ that’s a misconception.
Yāvatā, āvuso, diṭṭhi yāvatā diṭṭhiṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhiadhiṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhipariyuṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhisamuṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhisamugghāto, tamahaṁ jānāmi tamahaṁ passāmi.
I know and see the scope of convictions, the scope of grounds for views, fixation on views, obsession with views, the origin of views, and the uprooting of views.
“Ko nāmo āyasmā, kathañca panāyasmantaṁ sabrahmacārī jānantī”ti?
“What is the venerable’s name? And how are you known among your spiritual companions?”
‘Ānando’ti ca pana maṁ sabrahmacārī jānantī”ti.
And that’s how I’m known among my spiritual companions.”
“Mahācariyena vata kira, bho, saddhiṁ mantayamānā na jānimha:
“Goodness! I had no idea I was consulting such a great tutor as
Chaṭṭhaṁ.